Historic Landmarks Commission
Projects Committee Meeting Minutes
August 7, 2001
Location: 2100 Randolph Road, Charlotte, N. C.
Time: 6:00 p.m. - 7:45 p.m.
John Parker, Committee Chairman
Tattie Bos, Committee Vice-Chairman
Jeff Bradsher, HLC Chairman
John Misenheimer, HLC Vice-Chairman
Dan Morrill, HLC Consulting Director
Bryan Turner, HLC Projects Manager
Mary Lynn Morrill, HLC Recording Consultant
Neil Ruocco, Pappas Properties
1. MS. BOS PRESENTED A MOTION SECONDED BY MS. COX TO RECOMMEND TO THE
HISTORIC LANDMARKS COMMISSION THAT UNDER BRYAN TURNER’S SUPERVISION, A
NON-RENT PAYING TENANT BE ISSUED A MONTH TO MONTH OCCUPANCY AGREEMENT FOR
THE W. T. ALEXANDER GARAGE APARTMENT, 416 MALLARD CREEK CHURCH ROAD, MECKLENBURG
COUNTY, N. C. WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THE TENANT WILL PAY ALL UTILITIES
FOR THE APARTMENT AND MAKE REGULAR
INSPECTIONS OF ALL OF THE W. T. ALEXANDER PROPERTY OWNED BY THE HLC AS
SPECIFIED IN THE OCCUPANCY AGREEMENT. THE COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE
2. MR. GEER PRESENTED A MOTION SECONDED BY MS. RICHARDSON THAT UNDER
BRYAN TURNER’S SUPERVISION, THE ONE-STORY RANCH STYLE HOUSE ON THE ROZZELL
PROPERTY, 11647 ROZZELLES FERRY ROAD, MECKLENBURG COUNTY, N. C. BE RENTED
FOR $400 MONTHLY AND THAT THE TWO-STORY CIRCA 1881 HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY BE
LEASED AT NO CHARGE IN EXCHANGE FOR YARD SERVICE AND PAYMENT OF UTILITIES
AND HOUSEHOLD EXPENSES BY THE TENANT. THE COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE
3. MS. RICHARDSON PRESENTED A MOTION SECONDED BY MS. BOS TO RECOMMEND TO
THE HISTORIC LANDMARKS COMMISSION THAT DONNY LUKE OF ASHEVILLE, ONE OF THE
HLC’S PRE-APPROVED ARCHITECTS, BE APPROVED UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF BRYAN
TURNER AND SUBJECT TO AGREEMENT BETWEEN TURNER AND LUKE TO A MUTUALLY
ACCEPTABLE FEE AS THE PROJECT ARCHITECT FOR THE ROZZELL HOUSE , 11647 ROZZELLES
FERRY ROAD, MECKLENBURG COUNTY, N. C. THE COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE
4. MR. GEER PRESENTED A MOTION SECONDED BY MS. RICHARDSON TO RECOMMEND TO
THE HISTORIC LANDMARKS COMMISSION THAT DISCUSSIONS WITH CRESCENT RESOURCES
AND PAPPAS PROPERTIES ENSUE REGARDING THE CHARLOTTE TROLLEY BARN ON SOUTH
BOULEVARD AND THAT A CONDITIONAL OFFER BE SUBMITTED BY THE HLC DEPENDENT ON
ACQUISITION OF LAND BOND MONEY, PREFERABLY FOR THE ENTIRE TRACT OF THE
FORMER TROLLEY BARN PROPERTY AND THAT CHARLOTTE TROLLEY, INC. BE CONTACTED
ABOUT PROVIDING MONEY TO RESTORE AND RENOVATE THE BUILDING. THE COMMITTEE
UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE MOTION.
1. Chairman’s Report:
Mr. Parker welcomed everyone to the meeting.
2. Information Items:
Dan Morrill and Bryan Turner
Dr. Morrill showed slides of the latest HLC projects.
a. Status of Projects
1) W. T. Alexander
Plantation - Architect
Don Yelverton has signed the contract to begin designing the rebuilt barn
for condominiums and a site plan. Conversations are on-going with officials
of UNCC about the possibility of using the house and the garage apartment.
(See Recommendation #1
2) Charlotte Cotton
Mills - Work on the
skylights and the demolition of non-historic elements of the interior of the
building continues. Pappas Properties is having on-going meetings with
Commission staff to coordinate restoration efforts. Staff has contacted the
North Carolina Division of Archives and History to determine whether the
remaining portions of the mill might be eligible for listing in the National
Register of Historic Places. Paul Fomberg, restoration specialist for the
Division, will be visiting the site later this month. The Projects Committee
will be asked for input on Phase II of the restoration of the building owned
by the Commission. Mr. Ruocco discussed the issue of converting the
Charlotte Cotton Mills, 508 W. 5th Street, into condominiums with the
Committee. The essential reason is to provide more flexibility under the
State Building Code for projected design changes. The HLC owns Building B of
the Cotton Mills and Pappas Properties Building A. The alley between the two
buildings was discussed. The consensus of the committee was that exceptions
can be made to the HLC Guidelines if necessary, and that the concept of
converting the Charlotte Cotton Mills into condominiums should be explored.
3) Rozzell House,
11647 Rozzelles Ferry Road - The Board of County Commissioners will be asked
on August 14th to designate the property as a historic landmark and to
approve the Commission’s purchase of same. The Planning Committee of the
Planning Commission and the Joint Use Task Force have reviewed the project
and have no objections. Arrangements for the tenants of the two houses on
the property were discussed, along with hiring of a project architect. (See
above regarding the property.)
4) Oehler and McAuley
Houses - This site has
been prepared for the receipt of the McAuley House which will be moved from
10900 Alexanderana Road to the Oehler property at 14401 Huntersville-Concord
Road. Architect Joseph Opperman has made recommendations regarding the move
and is discussing the scope of services set forth in the contract for the
project architect. UNCC students conducted an archaeological dig at the site
5) Grier-Rea House,
corner of Colony and Rea Roads - The Commission has entered into an
agreement with the owner which stipulates that the house will be donated to
the HLC if the HLC will move the house off the property by May 1, 2001.
Staff visited the house and determined that portions of the house possess
outstanding architectural significance. Investigations of the feasibility of
the project continue.
6) Grier House,
4647 McKee Road, Charlotte, N. C. - The HLC has agreed to make an offer to
purchase the Grier House. The offer is being prepared for the HLC by
Attorney Patricia Nystrom. It has been submitted.
7) Rural Hill
Schoolhouse) - Historic Charlotte, Inc. has transferred $45,000 from the
Knight Foundation Grant to construct a bathroom and auxiliary classroom
facility at the site. The money has been deposited in interest-bearing
accounts at the Scottish Bank. Park and Recreation officials and Bryan
Turner and Dan Morrill have met with a builder of modular structures who
will be making a proposal to the County. The County at its own expense will
be replacing the roof on the building and doing structural repairs. A Minor
Works Certificate of Appropriateness for this work has been reviewed and
will be issued.
8) Croft Schoolhouse,
9200 Bob Beatty Road - The building, restored with bond funds, is for sale
for $490,000 and is listed with Springsteed Realty. The Commission has
received no offers. There is a possibility that Dr. Morrill will be using
the building in the Fall to teach real estate license renewal credit
courses. The courses would be offered by the Mingle Institute.
9) Dr. George E. Davis
House, 301 Campus Street
- Attorneys for Johnson C. Smith University and the County Attorney are
working out the details for the transfer of the property to the Commission.
The HLC will restore the house and sell it back to the University.
b. Use of Historic
Preservation Revolving Fund for In-Fill
Dr. Morrill reported
that the County Attorney, Marvin Bethune, has ruled that the Commission can
use monies from its Revolving Fund to construct new in-fill structures on
historic landmarks. The Board of County Commissioners is being asked on
August 14th to approve the necessary changes to the Budget Ordinance.
c. Use of Land Bond
Money for Property Acquisition.
Dr. Morrill reported that the County Attorney has ruled that Land Bond
money may be used to purchase historic landmarks but not to make
improvements to buildings. Also, a portion of the Land Bond money can be
used to purchase property for eventual resale. Dr. Morrill said that this
could have an enormous impact on the amount of money available to the HLC.
Staff was asked by the County to provide a list of historic landmarks that
could be purchased with Land Bond money. Staff has responded to this request.
d. Status of
Ratcliffe-Otterbourg House, 2100 Randolph Rd.
Dr. Morrill reported that the County is doing a splendid job maintaining
the property since its purchase by the HLC.
e. Current Financial
Status of Revolving Fund
Mr. Turner distributed a financial report to each Committee member. The
document reveals that the HLC has $6,596,896 in unspent funds in its $9
million revolving fund. However, if the HLC does not sell the Croft
Schoolhouse and if it spends the full amount on the Charlotte Cotton Mills
and the other projects to which it is potentially committed, only $83,465
remains unencumbered. The Town of Huntersville has committed $150,000 to the
Oehler/McAuley project but will have to be reimbursed when the property is
sold. Also, the County could use Land Bond money to acquire historic
landmarks for subsequent resale. The only difficulty that arises is whether
there is a sufficient amount of money in sold bonds that can be used for
private purposes, meaning that the property can be sold to a non-public
entity. The fundamental issue is whether the committee wants to sell to a
non-public entity. The fundamental issue is whether the committee wants to
recommend an aggressive use of the revolving fund, recognizing that some
expenditures on other projects, e.g. restoration of the W. T. Alexander
House, will have to be delayed.
3. Action Items -
Dan Morrill and Bryan Turner
a. Architect for Rozzell House project (See Rozzell House above)
b. Recommend Additional Projects
Dr. Morrill reported that there are three options available to the
committee: 1) recommend that the HLC move ahead with additional projects 2)
recommend that the HLC not move ahead with additional projects at this time
or 3) move that the HLC establish a procedure for evaluating potential
projects. Committee members received the established set of guidelines for
projects which are available on the website - www.landmarkscommission.org. A
fundamental reality is that the HLC cannot purchase property unless the
owner is willing to sell.
1) Miller House, Huntersville - under contract to a private party.
2) Charlotte Trolley Barn - The issue of the Charlotte Trolley Barn is
problematic. Dr. Morrill said that there is no question but that the
building occupied a pivotal place in the history of Charlotte, both as the
centerpiece of Charlotte’s electric streetcar system and as the scene of
Charlotte’s most violent labor unrest, the streetcar workers’ strike in
1919. The problems are threefold. 1) Duke Real Estate, the owner, has an
arrangement with Pappas Properties to develop the property, and present
plans call minimally for the demolition of approximately three-fourths of
the building 2) The distinctive corbelled front facade has been completely
destroyed and would have to be replicated. 3) It is a large project.
Acquisition of the entire tract, even if that were possible, would cost more
than $4 million dollars, and that would not include the price of renovating
the building. Arguing in favor of the project would be its impact on the
development of South End. lf there is interest in the property a)
discussions should begin with Duke Real Estate and Pappas Properties to see
what portions of the property are purchasable b) Charlotte Trolley should be
asked what it can provide in terms of money to restore and renovate the
building c) The County should be asked about the use of Land Bond money to
acquire the building and possibly additional amounts of the property for
eventual resale to Charlotte Trolley, Inc. or to another non-governmental
c. Consideration of Future Meeting Sites - The Committee agreed that it
is desirable to schedule the October meeting at the W. T. Alexander
4. Old Business
No motions were presented.
5. New Business
Ms. Cox showed a National Preservation Institute brochure to the
committee and told about some of the courses being offered. The Institute’s
website can be seen at www.npi.org.
The meeting adjourned at 7:45 p.m.