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Charlotte-Mecklenburg Historic Landmarks Commission

Special Meeting

December 1, 2003

7:00 p.m.

Location: 2100 Randolph Road, Charlotte, N. C.

Time: 7:00 p. m. - 8:35 p.m.

Present:

Ms. Tattie Bos, HLC Sec., Des. Rev. Vice-Chair

Mr. Jeff Bradsher/County, HLC Chairman

Ms. Amy Hockett/City, Design Review Committee Chairman

Ms. Yolanda Johnson-Gess/City, Projects Com. Vice-Chairman

Ms. Valerie Lewis/City, Education Com. Vice-Chairman

Mr. John E. Misenheimer/County, HLC Vice-Chairman, Rural Hill School Chairman

Mr. Len Norman/County, Survey Committee Chairman

Mr. John J. Parker, III/Mayor, Survey Committee V. Chairman

Ms. Laura Chalk Smith/City

Mr. Mike Sullivan/County, HLC Treas., Finance Committee Chair, Bond Com. Chair

Dr. Dan L. Morrill, HLC Consulting Director

Mr. Bryan Turner, HLC Projects Manager

Ms. Patricia Nystrom, HLC Attorney

Ms. Mary Lynn Morrill, HLC Recording Consultant

Absent:

Mr. Joe Kluttz/County, Projects Committee Chairman (recused)

Ms. Ross Richardson/County, Education Committee Chair

Visitors:

Mr. Bobbie Shields, Mecklenburg County, General Manager

Mr. Ron Tober, Director of CATS

Mr. Miller Jordan, President of Charlotte Trolley, Inc.

Ms. Lisa Gray, Executive Director of Charlotte Trolley, Inc.

Mr. Ned Carson

Mr. Peter Pappas, Pappas Properties

Mr. Brad Miller, City Engineering

AGENDA

Mr. Bradsher welcomed everyone to this special HLC meeting.

Dr. Morrill reported that the purpose of tonight’s meeting is for the HLC to consider whether to continue its support of the expenditure of approximately $1.5 million of land bond money for the County’s purchase of an 0.378 acre parcel and appurtenant easements to allow a portion of the former streetcar barn to serve as a carbarn for the new vintage trolley line and a museum/restoration area administered by Charlotte Trolley, Inc.

The following background information was presented:

On January 14, 2002, the HLC approved a motion that the HLC request that the Board of County Commissioners advance $1.428 million from land bond money to enable the HLC to acquire the Southern Public Utilities Carbarn (former) at 1424 South Boulevard, Charlotte, N. C., being more specifically the parcel of land and improvements being offered by Pappas Properties, Inc., with the stipulation that the HLC, if necessary, will use proceeds from the sale of revolving fund projects to repay the full amount of Land Bank money advanced to the HLC. They City’s paying the total cost of renovating the building and performing the site improvements, including necessary parking, to allow the building to become the carbarn for Charlotte’s Vintage Trolley Line. It was determined that it would be more appropriate for the County to acquire the property directly from Crescent Resources rather than having the HLC acquire the property. In other words, the HLC will not be responsible for reimbursing any money to the County. Even though the motion did not specifically call for the retention of the remain portion of the carbarn, it was certainly the intent of the HLC that such would be the result of its initiative to seek County funds to purchase the site.

On September 10, 2002, the HLC approved a motion that the HLC support the historic designation of the former Streetcar/Trolley Barn at the corner of 1300 South Boulevard and 300 Bland Street, Charlotte, N. C., with the following enumerated considerations and conditions: 1) The strength of the building’s historical significance mitigates issues of architectural integrity that result from loss of original fabric 2) The tax parcel to be designated should include all of the car barn or a portion adequate to convey the building’s historical meaning 3) With the aid of historical documentation the building’s facade shall be reconstructed of like materials to that of its period of significance 4) Extant historical features shall be retained 5) The building’s new use shall be compatible with its associative history 6) Due to the loss of original fabric, the car barn’s renovation and reuse shall include interpretation of the building’s original fabric, the car barn’s renovation and reuse shall include interpretation of the building’s original use 7) Surrounding new development shall be sensitive in size, scale, massing and style to the car barn. The motion was approved with the understanding that in order for the HLC to maintain integrity and consistency in its decision making the enumerated conditions are to be an integral component of any recommendation of local landmark designation for said Charlotte Streetcar/Trolley Barn. Mr. Bradsher appointed a subcommittee composed of Mr. Bradsher, Mr. Hirsch, Mr. Parker and Dr. Morrill to meet with Pappas Properties regarding the HLC’s potential involvement with the former Charlotte Streetcar/Trolley Barn. Mr. Bolt was present from Pappas Properties to answer Commissioners’ questions and to explain the position of Pappas Properties regarding the property. Duke Power Real Estate, owner of the property, selected Pappas Properties as the developer.

The current situation is as follows:

a. Ron Tober, chief administrator officer of CATS, has written a letter setting forth the level of commitment CATS is willing to make to the preservation of the building at this time and to other matters which are set forth in the most recent draft of the Purchase and Trolley Barn Development Agreement. A copy of the letter was distributed. Under this agreement:

1) The County agrees to purchase from Crescent Resources the 0.378 acre lot and appurtenant easements.

2) The County agrees to lease the property to the City.

3) Crescent Resources agrees to demolish the carbarn (or portions thereof), subject to reimbursement by the City.

4) The City agrees to construct a trolley museum, trolley maintenance facility, trolley tracks and related improvements.

5) The City agrees to sublease a portion of the carbarn to Charlotte Trolley, Inc., for the operation of a trolley museum and vintage trolley restoration.

6) Crescent Resources agrees to make specified infrastructure and landscape improvements on the land and appurtenant easements areas, in consideration of a monetary contribution from Charlotte Trolley, Inc., to be made in cash at closing.

b. HLC Staff received a telephone call from Ron Tober on Wednesday in which Mr. Tober stated that it is the present intent of CATS to save intact the northern, southern, interior brick walls of that portion of the carbarn that remains on site.

c. On Friday, HLC Staff received a fax of a letter from Crescent Resources to Ron Tober in response to the letter set forth in Section a. herein above. A copy of the letter was distributed.

Options before the Historic Landmarks Commission

County Staff will make a recommendation at the Board of County Commission’s meeting on December 2, 2003, as to whether the County will approved the Purchase and Trolley Barn Agreement.

A copy of a letter to Ron Tober setting forth the most recent County position regarding the matter was distributed. The County is taking the firm position that the projects must preserve the historic significance of the property.

The HLC considered the following possible actions:

a. Take no action, meaning that the HLC is satisfied that the initial intent of the HLC’s involvement is being met, namely a sufficient portion of the original carbarn will be preserved to meet accepted definitions of "historic preservation."

b. Recommend the placement of provisions in the County’s lease of the property to the City stipulating that the exterior and interior brick walls of the surviving portion of the carbarn be preserved.

c. Withdraw its support for the expenditure of Land Bond money and inform the Board of County Commissioners of its decision. The reason presumably would be the absence of certitude about what portions of the building would be preserved. A related issue is whether the HLC would accept the construction of a replica building.

d. Continue the historic designation process and request a public hearing. The Survey and Research report in available on the HLC’s website - www.cmhpf.org.

Staff Recommendation: Once the HLC is satisfied that the exterior and interior brick walls of the remaining structure will be preserved, it should reaffirm its support of the expenditure of Land Bond money to purchase the property, and erect a trolley barn/museum structure on the property. Furthermore, it should make that position known to the Board of County Commissioners. Achievements from the recommended action would be

1) The City, the County, Charlotte Trolley, Inc. and Crescent Resources will contribute funds to the construction of an exciting new home for the vintage trolley line

2) A significant historic building will be partially preserved.

3) Charlotte Trolley, Inc., which was created by the HLC, will have a viable base of operations to continue and expand its cultural programming.

4) Not insignificantly, CATS will be spending approximately $300,000 to upfit and complete Streetcar #85, which will become an operation unit in the vintage trolley fleet.

Mr. Tober and Mr. Shields explained the positions of CATS and the County. The HLC members asked questions and expressed concerns and viewpoints.

MR. PARKER PRESENTED A MOTION SECONDED BY MS. SMITH AS FOLLOWS: BASED UPON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED AND THE EXPRESSION OF INTENT BY THE CATS REPRESENTATIVES IN ATTENDANCE AT THE MEETING, THE HISTORIC LANDMARKS COMMISSION REAFFIRMS ITS SUPPORT OF THE EXPENDITURE OF LAND BOND MONEY TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1424 SOUTH BOULEVARD, CHARLOTTE, N. C. (THE FORMER SOUTHERN PUBLIC UTILITIES CARBARN), AND ERECT A TROLLEY BARN/MUSEUM STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY AND THAT THIS REAFFIRMATION BE COMMUNICATED TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BEFORE ITS MEETING ON DECEMBER 2, 2003. THE MOTION WAS APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING VOTE: OPPOSE: BOS, SULLIVAN APPROVE: BRADSHER, HOCKETT, JOHNSON-GESS, LEWIS, MISENHEIMER, NORMAN, PARKER, SMITH.

The meeting adjourned at 8:35 p.m.